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		<title>By: Gesigewigus</title>
		<link>http://plutonica.net/2008/07/21/thanks-and-new-plutoid/comment-page-1/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator>Gesigewigus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps.  I don&#039;t know if it is just the circles I run in, but no astrologer I know has demoted Pluto* and most don&#039;t use the Plutoids as anything other than a curiousity (partially because they are too new to know what they mean, heck even Pluto, Neptune and Uranus are considered too new to be understood well by some).

*I tried a quick google-fu, but there have been some interesting essays on the astrological importance of demoting Pluto.  Pluto represents many of the things that Western society tries to repress and hide and shun, it&#039;s death, it&#039;s sex, it&#039;s destruction, it&#039;s pain...all things the greater culture tries to hide or subvert (turning sex into just something to sell), and we do the same with Pluto.  We hide sex lives, we detach ourselves from death, we sweep it all under the rug, and we&#039;re doing the same to Pluto.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1794&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps.  I don&#8217;t know if it is just the circles I run in, but no astrologer I know has demoted Pluto* and most don&#8217;t use the Plutoids as anything other than a curiousity (partially because they are too new to know what they mean, heck even Pluto, Neptune and Uranus are considered too new to be understood well by some).</p>
<p>*I tried a quick google-fu, but there have been some interesting essays on the astrological importance of demoting Pluto.  Pluto represents many of the things that Western society tries to repress and hide and shun, it&#8217;s death, it&#8217;s sex, it&#8217;s destruction, it&#8217;s pain&#8230;all things the greater culture tries to hide or subvert (turning sex into just something to sell), and we do the same with Pluto.  We hide sex lives, we detach ourselves from death, we sweep it all under the rug, and we&#8217;re doing the same to Pluto.
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		<title>By: Psyche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psyche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, I especially like the section on Eris.  It&#039;s neat to see that tackled from an astrological perspective - it still seems to be omitted from most places I&#039;ve seen online.

I&#039;m just a little disappointed that major bodies aren&#039;t being named in this tradition anymore.  There are still many, many gods and goddesses available without planets.  I&#039;d even be ok with it if they wanted to name it after a Titan, or monster.

Next planet (or...&quot;plutoid&quot;) = Minotaur?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1793&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, I especially like the section on Eris.  It&#8217;s neat to see that tackled from an astrological perspective &#8211; it still seems to be omitted from most places I&#8217;ve seen online.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just a little disappointed that major bodies aren&#8217;t being named in this tradition anymore.  There are still many, many gods and goddesses available without planets.  I&#8217;d even be ok with it if they wanted to name it after a Titan, or monster.</p>
<p>Next planet (or&#8230;&#8221;plutoid&#8221;) = Minotaur?
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		<title>By: Psyche</title>
		<link>http://plutonica.net/2008/07/21/thanks-and-new-plutoid/comment-page-1/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>Psyche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see it all as evidence of further degradation of Pluto planetary status.  

If these &quot;plutoids&quot; are not dignified with the names Greco-Roman gods, but are named any random thing, reinforcing their arbitrary nature, there seems less chance of reinstating Pluto&#039;s rightful status, somehow.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1792&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see it all as evidence of further degradation of Pluto planetary status.  </p>
<p>If these &#8220;plutoids&#8221; are not dignified with the names Greco-Roman gods, but are named any random thing, reinforcing their arbitrary nature, there seems less chance of reinstating Pluto&#8217;s rightful status, somehow.
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		<title>By: Gesigewigus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gesigewigus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the above mentioned, really it is only the Planets that were named after the Greco-Roman Gods.  Asteroids, Meteors, and Planetoids are done differently, being named after gods, authors, whatever people wanted.  I guess Dwarf Planets, and Plutoids may fall in that naming tradition.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1747&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the above mentioned, really it is only the Planets that were named after the Greco-Roman Gods.  Asteroids, Meteors, and Planetoids are done differently, being named after gods, authors, whatever people wanted.  I guess Dwarf Planets, and Plutoids may fall in that naming tradition.
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		<title>By: wyrdling</title>
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		<dc:creator>wyrdling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, html got eaten i meant to point towards http://www.philipsedgwick.com for lots of detailed data on the weird goings on of the IAU from an astrological perspective.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1741&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, html got eaten i meant to point towards <a href="http://www.philipsedgwick.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.philipsedgwick.com</a> for lots of detailed data on the weird goings on of the IAU from an astrological perspective.
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		<title>By: wyrdling</title>
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		<dc:creator>wyrdling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sedna&#039;s an Inuit sea goddess.
Quaoar&#039;s a creator god of the Tongva- a tribe that used to live in the LA basin.
So it&#039;s not just Makemake who&#039;s non greco-roman.

depending on where they are or what sort of objects they resemble (i think oort cloud vs kuiper belt or something of the sort) they&#039;re expected to be named after creator or underworld deities.  i guess sedna counts as underworld, given that she lives at the bottom of the ocean....

i often find a lot of interesting musings &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philipsedgwick.com/Centaur_TNO/KuiperKeywords.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; about the astrology of solar system oddities.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-1740&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sedna&#8217;s an Inuit sea goddess.<br />
Quaoar&#8217;s a creator god of the Tongva- a tribe that used to live in the LA basin.<br />
So it&#8217;s not just Makemake who&#8217;s non greco-roman.</p>
<p>depending on where they are or what sort of objects they resemble (i think oort cloud vs kuiper belt or something of the sort) they&#8217;re expected to be named after creator or underworld deities.  i guess sedna counts as underworld, given that she lives at the bottom of the ocean&#8230;.</p>
<p>i often find a lot of interesting musings <a href="http://www.philipsedgwick.com/Centaur_TNO/KuiperKeywords.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a> about the astrology of solar system oddities.
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